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NANCY GRACE

California Woman Missing From Mexico Vacation Home

Aired September 9, 2009 - 20:00:00   ET

THIS IS A RUSH TRANSCRIPT. THIS COPY MAY NOT BE IN ITS FINAL FORM AND MAY BE UPDATED.


NANCY GRACE, HOST: Breaking news tonight. A gorgeous California hair stylist, Karen Wright, drives south to her Mexico vacation home and disappears, vanishes. Only clue, her two beloved Bassett hounds found left alone, unattended in Karen`s white Hummer, with food and water left for them in the vehicle. But why does it take her husband three long days to report her missing? And is hubby hiding a girlfriend? And how does that factor into this scenario? Tonight, where is California stylist Karen Wright?

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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: The case of the missing Merced, California, woman is now being declared a homicide, and authorities are calling her husband a person of interest. Fifty-year-old Karen Wright was last seen at a vacation home she shared with her husband, Randall Wright, in San Felipe, Mexico. Police aren`t elaborating on what led the case to be declared a homicide, but they did say there were several inconsistencies in Wright`s statements.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: With some of the information that we`re gleaning from the Mexican authorities, coupled with what we have and some of the inconsistencies of stories (INAUDIBLE) Karen Wright was murdered.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Earlier this year, Randall Wright was arrested on auto theft-related charges police discovered while investigating his wife`s disappearance.

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GRACE: And tonight, breaking news in the search for a 2-year-old Florida girl. Six months of searching culminates when skeletal remains found in a heavily wooded area 15 houses from the Anthony home confirmed to be Caylee. A utility meter reader stumbles on a tiny human skeleton, including a skull covered in light-colored hair, the killer duct taping and placing a heart-shaped sticker directly over the mouth, then triple bagging little Caylee like she is trash.

Bombshell tonight. What tot mom says behind closed doors when she bonds out of jail so damning, the defense fights tooth and nail to keep it out of court. They failed. Tot mom caught getting a big laugh at the police timeline of Caylee`s disappearance, setting up former fiance Jesse Grund, making damning and inconsistent statements about the Anthonys` back yard pool -- was it the murder scene? -- and revealing admissions about a shovel that may factor into little Caylee`s murder, tot mom`s face-off with grandfather George when he angrily presses her for the truth in the middle of the night. Tot mom obsessed about her own celebrity. What should she wear? Should she sell photos, autographs? Should she appear on the Howard Stern show, of all places? And of course, she`s all about making money off Caylee`s disappearance.

And tonight, torpedo to the defense. Duct tape wrapped around Caylee`s head matching duct tape in the Anthony home determined to be extremely rare. And of all the people the FBI asked to take polys, the only three to refuse, George, Cindy, and Lee Anthony.

Behind those closed doors, did tot mom`s lawyer coach her to show emotion, to act distraught, to pretend she had no appetite, while at the same time she was wolfing down special homemade meals all prepared by Cindy Anthony? Tonight, the defense revealed. Will it try to blame volunteer workers or former lover Tony Lazzaro? This as an informant appears on the scene claiming he knows who murdered little Caylee and it`s not tot mom.

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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: What was she saying about herself?

TRACY MCLAUGHLIN, BODYGUARD: I think I should sign pictures and get some money for the defense, or maybe we could take it on the radio and go to the Howard Stern show, but he`d want to know my bra size and if Jose was hitting it.

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LEONARD PADILLA, BOUNTY HUNTER: You`re going to talk to me like a cop, you get out of my house.

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MCLAUGHLIN: The first morning I was there, I woke up to George -- I couldn`t really hear Casey, but I woke up to, Quit your (DELETED) lying. I mean, screaming. They could have heard it across the street. Don`t (DELETED) lie to me. I`m not putting up with your (DELETED). Don`t do that. You know, he`s screaming at her. She`s going, No, no, you have to believe me. Don`t treat me like a scumbag cop. This is before Leonard talked to her. You act like my father. Act like you`re my father instead of a cop. I`m not listening to your (DELETED). Quit (DELETED) lying.

She starts talking about the shovel and she says, Well, hello, they didn`t even have the timeline right. And the mom says, No, and she -- no - - the mom -- Casey said, They didn`t have the timeline right. And then her mom said, yes, they didn`t know what you were doing. And she goes, Hello, I was using it to knock the bamboo down. And then she said, And look for the -- or get the ladder out of the pool.

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PADILLA: Never once did I see her eyes turn red, shed a tear at any time.

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MCLAUGHLIN: He said, If she couldn`t trust her own family to raise her kid -- now, I don`t -- that`s just his words. Maybe he`s believing -- I just seriously think that no one knows what happened and they want to take anything she says and believe it. But they`re -- I mean, what I think he was asking her -- I don`t know for sure -- is, you know, Where`s the body? I think he was saying, Where`s her body?

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GRACE: Good evening. I`m Nancy Grace. I want to thank you for being with us. California police announce the disappearance of a California stylist. This case now shifts from missing person to homicide. Take a listen.

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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Police are now declaring the case of a missing Merced, California, woman a homicide, and her husband is being called a person of interest. Fifty-year-old Karen Wright was last seen at a Mexican vacation home she owned with her husband, Randall Wright. The Wrights had been married for 12 years when Karen filed for divorce last October. Police say the couple was separated when she disappeared. They also say Randall Wright was in Mexico at the time of the disappearance and he reported her missing. Since the case began, Randall Wright has been charged with several crimes, including perjury, theft and embezzlement, but he says he did not kill his wife.

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GRACE: Right now, straight out to Blake Taylor, the news director at KMJ 580 Newsradio, joining us from Fresno. What can you tell us about Karen Wright?

BLAKE TAYLOR, KMJ 580 NEWSRADIO (via telephone): Nancy, thanks for having me back. Yes, Karen Wright, as you mentioned in the open there, a stylist by profession. She had been married to Randall Wright for a dozen years before filing for divorce last October. Went down to Mexico, San Felipe, Mexico, where the couple -- the estranged couple shared a nice, sprawling vacation home estate. She went down there to check it out. That`s the last time she was seen. That was back in February, earlier this year. Again, the two had filed for divorce in October. So just a few months prior...

GRACE: OK, hold on, Blake.

TAYLOR: ... to here being -- yes?

GRACE: With me is Blake Taylor of KMJ 580 Newsradio. We`re talking about the disappearance of a gorgeous California hair stylist who was heading south to Mexico to one of her Mexico vacation homes. She has never been seen again. The only clue left behind, apparently, her white Hummer was left with the windows rolled down, and seen in the car, in the Hummer, her two beloved Bassett hounds, where she had apparently laid out food and water for them but left them unattended, highly unlike her.

Back to Blake Taylor. Do we know the route she took to Mexico? Let`s see a map, Liz. Go ahead, Blake.

TAYLOR: Yes, well, that would have taken her straight through central California, right through where I am in Fresno, straight down and toward the Baja coast of Mexico, towards San Felipe. That`s where the couple had that vacation home. Like you said, the two dogs, her beloved Bassett hounds, left in that nice, pricey white Hummer outside of the home. Her neighbors, the last to see her and those dogs, apparently.

GRACE: Now, what can you tell me about the husband allegedly having a girlfriend?

TAYLOR: Yes, good question. Her name is Hutt. That`s her last name. I apologize. I don`t have her first name in front of me. But the alleged girlfriend here has been mixed up in this from the get-go as the investigation got under way into her disappearance.

GRACE: Hold on. Hold on. We`re showing a shot of Teresa Hutt, the alleged girlfriend. Go ahead -- the alleged girlfriend of the still married husband. Go ahead, Blake Taylor.

TAYLOR: Yes, well, and that`s Randall Wright is the husband. Like you said, they are still married, but Karen Wright did file for divorce back in October of 2008. Again, she went missing in February of `09, just a few months later.

Now, the last time that we heard about Teresa Hutt, she was still in Mexico, allegedly Randall Wright`s girlfriend. Allegations surfaced that she was hiding out that Mercedes, a very pricey $100,000 Mercedes that Randall Wright was accused of stealing from a dealership here in Fresno, coincidentally enough. They tried to extradite her on those charges of potentially aiding and abetting in that theft of the automobile. She has not been extradited, could not get that done, according to local authorities. So...

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GRACE: Come on, Blake! Wait! Blake, hold on! Take a breath. Blake, we can hardly get Mexico to extradite on a double murder case, much less stashing a Mercedes you didn`t make payments on in your garage. Mexico doesn`t care about somebody`s Mercedes up in the United States.

Let`s unleash the lawyers -- we are taking your calls live -- Meg Strickler, international attorney, Renee Rockwell joining us, defense attorney out of Atlanta, and former fed turned defense attorney Doug Burns joining us out of New York.

Come on, Renee -- Mexico extradite the girlfriend to the U.S. over somebody`s Mercedes? That`s not happening. And I guarantee you this girlfriend could tell the police a thing or two.

RENEE ROCKWELL, DEFENSE ATTORNEY: Yes, well, Nancy, they`re going to start leaning on her for other reasons, perhaps being a party to some kind of homicide. But I don`t see how Mexico is going to factor into any kind of prosecution in the United States, Nancy, if any crime appeared to have been committed in Mexico. It`s not happening over here.

GRACE: To Doug Burns. Doug, this woman takes off to visit one of her two Mexico vacation homes. She`s never been seen again. And I understand the husband has changed his stories a couple times.

DOUG BURNS, DEFENSE ATTORNEY: Yes, no, it`s going to be tough. But what`s crazy is the jurisdictional aspect, like Renee was saying. If the crime happened in Mexico, they`re going to have to go through a full-blown extradition, and you`re right, that`s going to make it a lot tougher.

GRACE: Out to the lines. Lisa in New York. Hi, Lisa.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Hi, Nancy. How are you?

GRACE: I`m good, dear. What`s your question?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I just wanted to know, were they together at the time that -- when she disappeared?

GRACE: To Matt Zarrell. Very quickly, Matt, were -- do we know for a fact they were together at the time she disappeared?

MATTHEW ZARRELL, NANCY GRACE PRODUCER: No, they`ve been separated since May.

GRACE: No, physically together. Were they physically together?

ZARRELL: Yes, they were together the last time she was seen.

GRACE: Everyone, we are taking your calls. We`ll be right back on the story of Karen Wright, a California stylist who disappears en route to Mexico.

But right now, breaking news. We are headed to Baytown, Texas. We need your help. Police issue an Amber Alert for 14-year-old Samuel Blake Kirtley. Please take a look at this little boy. He apparently has been stolen by his father, Neil Hanes Roberts (ph). Now, listen, normally, you wouldn`t think there`s a problem with the father, but this father, Hanes Roberts, has been accused of abusing this boy, this little boy.

Samuel grabbed Sunday evening from his grandmother`s home in League (ph) City. He`s believed to be in a 2004 Kia sedan, Texas license plate 178 H -- happy -- W -- Wyoming -- V -- victory. If you have information, please help us. Call police, 281-420-6622. This boy`s life may depend on it.

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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: California police say they`ve gathered enough evidence in the case of missing Merced woman Karen Wright to declare she`s been murdered. Police are calling her husband, Randall Wright, a person of interest in the disappearance of his 50-year-old wife, last seen in San Felipe, Mexico. Police aren`t disclosing what prompted them to declare the case a murder investigation, but they do believe the husband knows more than he`s let on.

Karen Wright filed for divorce last October after 12 years of marriage, and relatives say the couple was separated when she went missing.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: (INAUDIBLE) that we`re gleaning from the Mexican authorities, coupled with what we have and so many inconsistencies (INAUDIBLE) and there are some commonalities...

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GRACE: Straight out to Matt Zarrell, our producer on the story. Matt, what more can you tell me? And give it to me in a nutshell, Matt.

ZARRELL: Well, essentially, the husband, Randall Wright, says he was down there. The wife showed up. The wife was checking on the house. Apparently, he was not allowed to work on the house as part of the divorce agreement, and she was down there to check on if he was working on the house.

GRACE: OK, so the last known person to have spotted her is the estranged husband.

Joining me right now, special guest Sheriff Mark Pazin. He`s with the Merced County sheriff`s office. Sheriff, thank you for being with us. Sheriff, this case has gone from missing person now to homicide. Why?

SHERIFF MARK PAZIN, MERCED COUNTY (via telephone): Well, we believe that Randy Wright has earned the scrutiny with some inconsistent statements, as mentioned earlier in your show. Things just aren`t coming together as he would like to us believe. Case in point, we go back to February 12th. He had gotten back from Mexico. And I can share with you this. There was immediately a suspicion about it when he called our agency to tell us that there was something suspicious, that his wife had not come home. It was almost like he was wanting us to verify a certain aspect of his story. Right away, we knew that there was something amiss, and we immediately called our major crime unit.

GRACE: Sheriff Pazin, what I don`t understand is he calls you and says something suspicious, his wife hasn`t come back home. Why did that pique your interest?

PAZIN: Well, normally, you would think, as a normal course of events and having done this for a number of years, that he would want to have listed his wife as a missing person immediately, not just to tell us, Oh, by the way, I just got home from Mexico and I just wanted to let you folks know that there`s something just isn`t right and I`m suspicious that she`s not home yet.

GRACE: I understand. Now I understand what you`re saying.

Joining me right now, in addition to Sheriff Mark Pazin, is Karen`s sister. She`s joining us out of Sacramento, California, Marcia Stewart. Marcia, thank you for being with us. Tell me about your sister. This seems highly uncharacteristic of her to just disappear, fall off the map.

MARCIA STEWART, SISTER OF KAREN WRIGHT: It is. It`s not like her to just take off and drive through the middle of the night to go to Mexico. It`s my understanding there was a gas charge on her credit card in the city of El Centro, which is a city that`s right before the border, nothing in between. She has a Hummer that gets eight miles to the gallon. There was no gas-up in Merced. She would have had to gas up several times to get there.

She called Mom the next morning, or that morning, which was February 9th, and said she was in Mexico. She would be home on the 11th. Next thing I know, I get a call from the sheriff`s department on the 12th at noon, saying Randy came back and said Karen went missing in Mexico. And so we went down to the sheriff`s department. They had stated the FBI was involved, but I have been in contacting with Kate Barton (ph) of the consulate, and she stated the FBI is not involved in this.

GRACE: Ms. Stewart, hold on one moment. Everyone, with me is Karen Wright`s sister. Karen Wright goes down to Mexico to check on her vacation home and is never seen again. We are taking your calls live. We`ll be right back from break.

But right now, breaking news. We are headed to Baytown, Texas. We need your help. Police issue an Amber Alert for a 14-year-old little boy. Here he is pictured. It`s Samuel Blake Kirtley. Police say he has been stolen by his father, Neil Hanes Roberts. Now, here`s the problem. The father is accused of abusing this boy, physically abusing the little boy. Now he`s got the boy. He was snatched on Sunday evening from his grandmother`s house, League City. Samuel believed to be in a 2004 Kia sedan, Texas plates 178 HWV. Please help us. If you have information, call 281-420-6622.

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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Police are now declaring the case of a missing Merced, California, woman a homicide, and her husband is being called a person of interest. Fifty-year-old Karen Wright was last seen in February at a vacation home she shared with her husband, Randall Wright, in San Felipe, Mexico. Earlier this year, Randall Wright was arrested on auto theft-related charges police discovered while investigating his wife`s disappearance.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: (INAUDIBLE) police or the district attorney thought there was enough evidence to charge him with anything else, they would.

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GRACE: We are taking your calls live. Out to Pauline in Texas. Hi, Pauline.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Tennessee, dear.

GRACE: Oh, excuse me, dear. What`s your question?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I have two. Are there any children from this marriage? Also, was either one or both married before?

GRACE: Let`s go to Karen Wright`s sister, Marcia Stewart, joining us tonight exclusively. Ms. Stewart, what can you tell me? I don`t believe they had children together, but did they have children previously?

STEWART: Karen doesn`t have any children at all. Randy has children from a prior marriage.

GRACE: How many times had he been married?

STEWART: I believe Karen was his third wife.

GRACE: Third wife. And what about the other two? Are they alive?

STEWART: They`re alive. Yes.

GRACE: Ms. Stewart, what can you tell me about what he, the husband, told you after your sister goes missing?

STEWART: Actually, the sheriff`s department didn`t want any family members speaking to Randy, so we have not spoken to Randy.

GRACE: What was this about him claiming she was wielding a bat at one point?

STEWART: This is what he claims down there. They went to the house that`s under construction. New cabinets were in. Karen did not like the cabinets. And he says she took a bat and was hitting the cabinets because she did not like them.

GRACE: Does that sound like your sister?

STEWART: No.

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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: The case of a missing Merced, California woman is now being declared a homicide, and authorities are calling her husband a person of interest. 50-year-old Karen Wright was last seen at a vacation home she shared with her husband, Randall Wright, in San Felipe, Mexico.

Police aren`t elaborating on what led the case to be declared a homicide, but they did say there were several inconsistencies in Wright`s statements.

SHERIFF MARK PAZIN, MERCED COUNTY SHERIFF`S OFFICE, ON THE CASE: With some of the information that we`re gleaning from the Mexican authorities, coupled with what we have and some of the inconsistencies of stories and -- we believe Karen Wright was murdered.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Earlier this year, Randall Wright was arrested on auto theft-related charges police discovered while investigating his wife`s disappearance.

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NANCY GRACE, HOST: Straight out to the Sheriff Mark Pazin with the Merced County Sheriff`s Office. What ratchets him up to become a person of interest, Sheriff?

PAZIN (via phone): Well, again, like you mentioned earlier in the show, there`s just been inconsistencies. And let me say this for the record also, as the normal course of events, you know, we may have listed this as a missing it person for a time being but we don`t want to be timid about how we handle this.

Suffice it to say we have another interesting point that led us to this. Karen loved her two dogs, as you`ve already alluded to earlier in your show. The dogs, the basset hounds came home, Karen did not. So we start to total up the -- again, the inconsistencies, the fact that Randy Wright has been less than truthful, hence his no-contest plea to the embezzlement and the grand theft charges.

We want to go ahead and pursue this with vigor. We need to do this for the family. We need to do this for ourselves to make sure that justice is served.

GRACE: Sheriff, are you telling me the husband brings the dogs back but waited three days to report the wife missing?

PAZIN: Well, and that`s, again, another inconsistency, Nancy, is that he never truly called us to tell her to report her missing. He called us on February 12th, because I remember it was a holiday, Lincoln`s birthday. And that he will just had this funny feeling that something suspicious about....

GRACE: Yes, there`s something suspicious all right, Sheriff. My question, how did the dogs get back to California?

PAZIN: I`m with you. Try that again, Nancy?

GRACE: How did the dogs get back to California?

PAZIN: Evidently, he brought them back.

GRACE: OK. He brings them back, doesn`t report wife missing. Unleash the lawyers, Meg Strickler, Renee Rockwell, Doug Burns.

Doug Burns, why is it nobody can seem to locate the girlfriend and she is apparently not cooperating with police and now the husband has clammed up and he`s not saying a word either?

DOUG BURNS, DEFENSE ATTORNEY: And you have a crime that probably took place in Mexico and you have him throwing in, by the way, she came at me with a bat. So the police are going to have to keep their noses to the grindstone. And by the way, where is her body, Nancy?

GRACE: To Meg Strickler. Weigh in, Meg.

MEG STRICKLER, DEFENSE LAWYER: Yes, I agree with Doug. This is an interesting case to be sure. If he gets tried in Mexico, that`s going to really muddy the waters. It will be interesting to see where the body gets found.

GRACE: Tried in Mexico?

STRICKLER: Yes.

GRACE: Fat chance they`ll ever bring a prosecution.

I want to go to Dr. Michael Arnall, board certified forensic pathologist, joining us out of Denver.

Dr. Arnall, the last place she is seen is at this vacation home in Mexico. Now, if that were the crime scene, now months have passed. Do you really believe Mexican authorities are going to take it upon themselves to go process a crime scene?

DR. MICHAEL ARNALL, BOARD CERTIFIED FORENSIC PATHOLOGIST: I think it`s possible. I think they want to look at that.

GRACE: Do you think it`s probable?

ARNALL: Well, it depends on their motivation. I would certainly collect that baseball bat and see if there`s any hair or blood from the woman on it.

GRACE: To Lillian Glass, three days the husband waits and then when he does call in, it`s not to make a missing persons report but it`s to kind of cast blame on her for not returning.

LILLIAN GLASS, PSYCHOLOGIST, AUTHOR OF "I KNOW WHAT YOU`RE THINKING": Nancy, that is very suspicious because somebody that would be concerned would immediately say, I`d like to file a missing persons report, something`s wrong, I can`t find her, but this is not what took place. So that`s very suspicious.

GRACE: No. Not at all. Out to the lines, Lakisha, Indiana. Hi, Lakisha.

LAKISHA, CALLER FROM INDIANA: Hi, Nancy, how you doing tonight?

GRACE: I`m good, dear. What`s your question?

LAKISHA: I`m doing fine. Your -- I mean, your daughters or your children are very nice looking.

GRACE: They really are.

LAKISHA: I`m a mother of one myself. She`s 12 months old. But I got two questions.

GRACE: OK.

LAKISHA: My first question is, who was the last person to see Randy before he went to Mexico with Karen?

GRACE: OK. What do we know about that, Marcia Stewart?

MARCIA STEWART, SISTER OF MISSING WOMAN, KAREN WRIGHT: Randy was already in Mexico. And supposedly Karen went down and arrived there on February 9th.

GRACE: OK. Is Lakisha still with me, Elizabeth? Lakisha, what was your second question?

LAKISHA: OK. If Randy or when or if Randy is found guilty, what charges will he be facing?

GRACE: Well, right now all they`ve got is a missing person`s case. They`ve got to develop more evidence before a homicide case can be brought. And right now, he`s not been named a suspect in the case. If -- I doubt at this point they`re going to find a body. I doubt it very seriously. So it`s a long shot. There`s got to be forensic evidence or some type of admission. That`s where the girlfriend comes in.

To Sheeba in Illinois, hi, Sheeba.

SHEEBA, CALLER FROM ILLINOIS: Hi, dear. It`s been so long, and thank you for the book, baby. I just love it.

GRACE: Thank you. Now, don`t give it away. Don`t give it away.

SHEEBA: I won`t.

GRACE: Did you figure out who did it?

SHEEBA: Not yet, but I will not give it away.

GRACE: What`s your question, love?

SHEEBA: My question is, if she`s in Mexico, her body, and they ever find her body, if someone stumbles across it, can they prosecute him in the United States or will he have to go down to Mexico and go through all of their.

GRACE: Absolutely not. Renee Rockwell, didn`t have to be tried in Mexico where the crime occurred.

RENEE ROCKWELL, DEFENSE ATTORNEY: And Nancy, it`s a very novel idea to prosecute somebody in America without a body. I don`t see it happening in Mexico.

GRACE: Everyone, we are taking your calls live, but right now, damning evidence, uncovered against tot mom and it all comes from her own mouth. What she said behind bars after she was bonded out of jail. Take a listen.

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LEONARD PADILLA, BOUNTY HUNTER, INTERVIEWED BY FBI IN TOT MOM CASE: She didn`t realize she was going to be a celebrity. "Is it cloudy? The choppers won`t be out. Maybe I should take pictures and autograph them and I can sell them."

UNIDENTIFIED POLICE: She said that?

PADILLA: Yes. He mentioned that, either he or Tracy mentioned one day that she had said, I should take pictures and autograph them and sell them. I can make a lot of money.

UNIDENTIFIED POLICE: What was she saying about herself?

TRACY MCLAUGHLIN, CASEY ANTHONY`S FORMER BODYGUARD: I think I should sign portrait or sign pictures and get some money for the defense or maybe we could take it on the radio and go to the "Howard Stern Show" but he`d wanted to know my bra size and if Jose was hitting it.

PADILLA: I hold her that I didn`t come 3,000 miles and leave Chihuahua behind to listen to this (EXPLETIVE DELETED).

MCLAUGHLIN: If I would really hammer for Caylee`s name and not about what happened and not -- I mean, a couple little things she said is, but I would try to bring up, we go in the bedroom, she`s showing me I`m putting my acute case and there`s pictures of Caylee all over the place.

UNIDENTIFIED POLICE: Who`s room is this?

MCLAUGHLIN: This is Casey`s room. This is where.

UNIDENTIFIED POLICE: OK.

MCLAUGHLIN: So there`s pictures of Caylee all over. And I said, oh, this is cute and oh, yes, well, we did this, but on my birthday one time, and she pulled out a photo album. And she was a little -- and she`d just go on and on about this thick, thick photo album, every picture. It was competition. She wanted the lime lights.

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GRACE: And we also learned that she is now pointing the finger at volunteer searchers for Caylee and former live-in Tony Lazarro.

Drew Petrimoulx, WDBO, in court today, where are we getting all of this sound? Explain it to me in a nutshell.

DREW PETRIMOULX, REPORTER, WDBO RADIO: This woman named Tracy McLaughlin lived with Casey Anthony when she was let out of jail last summer. And this is an interview she did a while back with investigators just now released by a judge and then by the state attorney`s office.

GRACE: Well, Drew Petrimoulx.

PETRIMOULX: And it`s very interesting because she was actually inside the house with Casey.

GRACE: Now I understand why the defense is fighting so hard to suppress it. So a jury never hears about it, but they failed and tonight we have the rest of the audio.

Breaking news, everyone, to Baytown, Texas, police issue an Amber Alert for 14-year-old Samuel Blake Kirtley. Samuel taken by his father Neil Haines Robert who has been accused of abusing the little boy physically.

Samuel snatched Sunday from his grandmother`s home Leeg City. He`s believed to be with his father on the run in a 2004 Kia Sedan, Texas plates 178 HWV.

If you have information please call police, 281-420-6622.

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PADILLA: Gorge had gotten upset, come into the room and said, "I want to know what happened to my granddaughter." The response from Casey was, "Quit acting like a (EXPLETIVE DELETED) cop and act like a father for once in your life."

MCLAUGHLIN: We had Leonard come in the house and question her. We`re sitting on the couch and Leonard starts saying, "OK, what happened?" And she started explaining that OK, well, I took her to the apartments and I dropped her off at Zenaida`s. Leonard said, (EXPLETIVE DELETED), don`t start telling me that crap.

No, that`s what happened. No, don`t do that. I`m here to find her, don`t pull your (EXPLETIVE DELETED). I`m not going to believe your lies. You can`t tell me -- this is seriously the most emotional I`ve seen her the whole time I was there.

You can`t tell me what happened. You weren`t there. You don`t know what happened and -- you need to leave. She got real upset, she`s going, "I knew it, he`s just acting like a scumbag cop."

The first morning I was there, I woke up to -- I couldn`t really hear Casey but I woke up to, "Don`t -- quit your (EXPLETIVE DELETED) lying," I mean screaming. They could have heard it out across the street. "Don`t (EXPLETIVE DELETED) lie to me. I`m not putting up with your (EXPLETIVE DELETED). Don`t do that. Just don`t," you know, he`s screaming at her. She goes, "No, no. You have to believe me. You can`t," same thing, "Don`t treat me like a scumbag cop." This is before Leonard talked to her.

"You act like my father. Quit, you know, act like you`re my father instead of a cop. I`m not listening to your (EXPLETIVE DELETED). Quit (EXPLETIVE DELETED) lying." I mean just boom all over the house like that.

PADILLA: George had gotten upset, come into the room and said, "I want to know what happened to my granddaughter." Something in a violent fashion. And Cindy had attempted to get him out of the room and couldn`t and therefore, she called for Jim, his cop buddy, to come help. And at the same time, the response from Casey was, "Quit acting like a (EXPLETIVE DELETED) cop and act like a father for once in your life."

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GRACE: I also understand -- out to Ellie Jostad, our chief editorial producer -- that she is behind closed doors already setting up Jesse Grund and Tony Lazarro, claiming one of them had keys to the car and this is after she learns human decomposition was in the car?

ELLIE JOSTAD, NANCY GRACE PRODUCER, COVERING STORY: Right, that`s right. That`s when those reports were first starting to hit the news that human decomposition was found in the trunk, also that a hair showed signs of decomposition and Tracy McLaughlin, this bodyguard said, well, Jesse had a key to that car. That`s the first thing she mentioned.

And Leonard Padilla also said that will Jose Baez mentioned to him, showed him a card that Jesse Grund had given Casey. Talked about how much Jesse loved her and he thought that they could be considering him as a suspect, as well.

GRACE: OK. Let`s take a listen to what tot mom had to say behind closed doors trying to point the finger at ex-fiance Jesse Grund.

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PADILLA: Jesse Grund. Jose had brought him up, showed me a card that kind of scared me, it`s like, wow, this guy not only is he in love with Casey, he`s in love with Caylee, like he refers to her as a woman. You`re the two greatest women in my life, et cetera, et cetera. And I thought it strange, but the attorney showed it to me, and I said, oh, OK.

UNIDENTIFIED POLICE: Why would he show that to you?

PADILLA: I think to, now in hindsight, just to aim me in Grund`s direction because he`d make a great suspect if you`re looking for somebody that kidnapped a little girl and did, you know, hid her away or did something. I mean, Jesse would be a great suspect.

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GRACE: And Ellie, you were talking about claiming that Grund has the key to her car, right?

JOSTAD: That`s right. That`s correct. She said a lot of people had access to that car, and Jesse had a key to that car. I guess she`s trying to suggest that somebody else may have put a decomposing body in her trunk.

GRACE: OK. Here she is on the car.

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UNIDENTIFIED POLICE: After the news of the decomposition, the air samples break, the following day she says, well, Jesse had a key to my car.

MCLAUGHLIN: Mm-hmm.

UNIDENTIFIED POLICE: Now was she trying to suggest that there was a dead body in the back of the car or was she trying to suggest that it could have been Caylee in the back of that car?

MCLAUGHLIN: I would take it as just a dead body. I don`t -- because she`s not ever going to -- because she knows Zenaida had Caylee. She`s not going to back up from that.

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GRACE: And to Leonard Padilla, she also makes a stunning admission about the shovel that many people think is linked to the murder.

PADILLA: Well, the part of the shovel that I got basically was what I`m talking to Tracy and talking to the neighbor that loaned her the shovel, I believe she told Tracy that they didn`t even have it right. Somehow, she`d used the shovel to scoop the ladder out of the pool or sometimes there was the discussion about that it was used to knock off the palm pods back there.

GRACE: Well, you know what?

PADILLA: There was several explanations for the...

GRACE: Leonard, you`re absolutely correct. Liz, let`s let the viewers hear what tot mom had to say behind closed doors about a shovel many people believe is somehow link to Caylee`s murder.

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MCLAUGHLIN: She starts talking about the shovel and she goes -- and she says, well, hello, they didn`t even have the timeline right. And the mom says no, and she said, no, the mom -- Casey said they didn`t have the timeline right. And then her mom said yes, they didn`t know what you were doing.

And she goes, hello? I was using it to knock the bamboo down, and then she said and look for the -- or get the ladder out of the pool. And as soon as she said that, I`m sitting like this, her mom looks at her like shut up. George walks in from the back room shaking his head, so I`m not supposed to see, shaking his head, getting in the cupboard like just drop that so that`s when she said getting the ladder out of the pool. That`s what she needed the shovel for.

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GRACE: Bill Sheaffer, former prosecutor and WFTV legal analyst who was in court today.

Bill, also, it`s been suggested and now we hear it, that her defense team has been coaching her to show emotion.

BILL SHEAFFER, DEFENSE ATTORNEY, WFTV LEGAL ANALYST: Yes, not surprising. The defense team as well as Casey herself will go to any lengths to cast doubt at -- to others and shift the focus away from herself, so it`s not surprising that she`s coached to show emotion.

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MCLAUGHLIN: We`d get in the car, oh, my god, I am so full. We had, you know, ABC or CBS Friday, and Olive Garden, I ate this much, I ate 20 hot wings and she`s going all this stuff, and then -- now that we get home and I have Rob go get us Wendy`s. Jose would probably try to coach her to talk about Caylee and act like you`re upset. The next days she`s going, oh, I lost so much weight, I didn`t eat all day yesterday, I`ve just been so upset.

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PADILLA: She just sat there and looked at me, looked me straight in the eyes, and said, "You want to talk to me like a cop? You get out of my house." Pointed to the front door and I said, OK.

UNIDENTIFIED POLICE: Now she accused you of being like a cop?

PADILLA: Talking to her like a cop. "If you`re going to talk to me like a cop, you get out of my house."

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GRACE: Making money, appearing on the "Howard Stern Show," having food catered by ABC, CBS, you name it. Those are some of the topics tot mom was discussing behind closed doors after she bonded out from behind bars. Nothing about her missing daughter.

To Natisha Lance, how much more is there to learn about what she said about her missing child?

NATISHA LANCE, NANCY GRACE PRODUCER: Nancy, there`s three hours of these audio tapes. And this is Leonard Padilla, Tracy McLaughlin, and also Robert Dick who did these interviews with the FBI. But beyond that, we`ve had tons and tons, thousands and thousands of pages of discovery to come out. So this is just the tip of the iceberg.

GRACE: John Lucich, investigator and author of "Cyber Lies." John Lucich, what do you make of it?

JOHN LUCICH, INVESTIGATOR, AUTHOR OF "CYBER LIES": Hey, Jesse Grund didn`t do it. Motive, opportunity, everything points to her. She was the last one seen with the baby. She was the one who her mom turned in. And now they`re coming up with all of this. And by the way, those statements made, they should be in court. That attorney made that mistake a long time ago of letting those people live with her who didn`t have attorney client privilege protections.

GRACE: Everyone, let`s stop and remember Army Sergeant Jon Stiles, 38, Highlands Ranch, Colorado. Studied aviation at Metropolitan State College of Denver. Also served Marines. Remembered as a soldier`s soldier. Risked his life rescued three fellow soldiers earlier in his tour.

Lost his life one day after talking to his wife of eight years. Loved movies, fly fishing, bending lakes and rivers around Colorado. Leaves behind parents, Glenn and Linda, sister Natalie, serving the Air Force, and brother Charles, serving the army, grandparents Maxine and Kenny, widow Launa.

Jon Stiles, American hero.

Thanks to our guests, but especially to you for being with us. And a special good night from Georgia, Tennessee and South Carolina friends of the show, Martha, Kathy, Stacy, Lisa and Michelle.

Aren`t they beautiful?

Everyone, I`ll see you tomorrow night, 8:00 sharp Eastern. Until then, good night, friend.

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