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American Kidnapped In Egypt; Battleground States in Play; Aiming For Gold; Syria's Body Count Rises; Micro Apartments in New York City
Aired July 15, 2012 - 06:00 ET
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RANDI KAYE, CNN ANCHOR: From CNN world headquarters in Atlanta, this is EARLY START WEEKEND.
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TAMISHA CIVIL, CHURCH MEMBER: We want him returned to Boston safely.
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KAYE: Two American hostage held in Egypt. And now we know their names. The family of Michel Louis joins me live to talk about what they think happened.
Plus, disgraced, deceased, but still making millions. Why Joe Paterno's family still benefits from a lucrative contract.
And later --
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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: So, after I cook, I'll put my dishes in the tub.
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KAYE: Would you pay $2,000 a month for 300 square feet? That's what New York City is hoping. We'll explain.
It is Sunday, July 15th. Good morning, everyone. I'm Randi Kaye. Glad you're with us.
We start this morning in Egypt and developments in the kidnapping of two Americans. One of them is Reverend Michel Louis. And he is the senior pastor of the Free Pentecostal Church of God in the Boston, Massachusetts, neighborhood of Dorchester. His family says he was on a missionary trip when his tour he bus was stopped in the Sinai peninsula. Lewis' family, as well as a member of his congregation, spoke about the incident and their wishes for his safe return.
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JEAN LOUIS, KIDNAPPED U.S. PASTOR'S SON: We don't have any more information other than what we hear in the news and what you guys are hearing. We're all in good spirits because we -- we know that the God that we serve is in control of the matter. The only concern that we have at the moment is that he is diabetic. And the longer they hold him, I want to assume that it's not going to work in his favor.
TAMISHA CIVIL, CHURCH MEMBER: I don't know. There is no words that I can describe as of right now how we're feeling. It's just that we want him returned to Boston safely.
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KAYE: The family also said that the woman taken with Pastor Louis is named Lisa Alphonse (ph). Let's bring in Mohamed Fadel Fahmy. He joins me now on the phone from Cairo.
Mohamed, is there any movement this morning in getting these folks released?
MOHAMED FADEL FAHMY, CNN CORRESPONDENT (via telephone): I just got off the phone with General Ahmed Bakr, who's the head of security in north Sinai, and he told me that his phone is off the hook as he is trying to negotiate the release of the hostages with elderly -- that were (ph) acting as mediators between the authorities and the kidnappers. He is positive that the situation will be resolved shortly. And we are following this story very closely in order to see if there's any progress that we can bring to you.
KAYE: Have they actually been in touch with the Bedouin kidnappers, do you know?
FAHMY: Yes, they've been in touch for the past two days, since the incident happened on Friday. And I got in contact with the kidnapper yesterday. And he confirmed that the hostages are safe and unharmed and that he is actually considering them guests of his. But he also vowed to kidnap other tourists if the authorities do not release his uncle, who he claims is framed (ph) on drug charges.
KAYE: And what can you tell me about the area where they are? I mean have you been able to confirm that they're still in the area where they were abducted?
FAHMY: Yes, the authorities say that they are still in Sinai, but where they were exactly abducted is unclear. However, in the past year and a half, there has been at least half a dozen kidnaps in Sinai and none of the hostages were harmed. And actually the last time Bedouin kidnapped U.S. tourist, the authorities gave in to the Bedouin's demands and they released the prisoners and the hostage left unharmed.
KAYE: So for the family, how long do you think they should expect something like this to go on?
FAHMY: Well, this is the first time that it takes about two days, but we are -- everybody, from the authorities I've spoken to, is confident that this will be resolved shortly. The Bedouin usually reach some sort of deal with the authorities, and I think it might be resolved sooner than later. Mohamed Fadel Fahmy, thank you very much for the update this morning.
And be sure to stay with us on EARLY START WEEKEND. In just a few moments, I'll speak with the family of Reverend Louis about their father and the efforts to free him and what their mother, who is also in Egypt, told them about what happened.
Staying in Egypt now. A country Secretary of State Hillary Clinton says is in a time of, quote, "historic firsts" as it looks to form a government around its first democratically elected president, Mohamed Morsi. She is there at this hour. Aides to the secretary say Clinton wanted to make the trip soon after Morsi's swearing in to show that the Obama administration is eager to help rebuild a fragile economy. In remarks, Clinton stressed the importance of the two nations working together on Egypt's future.
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HILLARY CLINTON, SECRETARY OF STATE: We believe America's shared strategic interests with Egypt far outnumber our differences. And we know that Egypt's future is up to the Egyptian people, but we want to be a good partner. We want to support the democracy that has been achieved by the courage and sacrifice of the Egyptian people and to see a future of great potential be realized for the nearly 90 million people of Egypt who are expecting that to occur.
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KAYE: To the U.S. now. The family of the late Penn State football coach, Joe Paterno, will still benefit from his contract. University officials made the announcement just a day after an internal review blasted Paterno and other school officials for their handling of the child sex abuse scandal. Paterno's amended contract was finalized in August last year. It totaled $5.5 million in payouts and benefits, including paying his wife $1,000 a month for the rest of her life. Paterno's contract may stay in place, but his likeness on a famous mural has been changed. After he died, artists had placed a halo above his head on the gigantic painting. But after the conviction of his top assistant, Jerry Sandusky, and the release of that internal report, that scathing report by former FBI Director Louis Freeh, they removed that halo.
To politics. And the Obama administration has given in to Florida. The state will now have access to a Department of Homeland Security database on immigrants. It's part of Florida's effort to clear illegal voters off their voter rolls. Florida had sued the government for access to the database. A little while ago I spoke with Florida Governor Rick Scott about how big of a problem illegal voters had become.
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GOV. RICK SCOTT (R), FLORIDA: Randi, here's what we know so far. We did -- because we couldn't get the Homeland Security database, we used our own motor vehicle database. And we just looked at 2,600 names. We know over 100 people have registered to vote. They're non- U.S. citizens. And we know over 50 have voted in our election. So we know people are registering to vote that are non-U.S. citizens, and we know they're voting. That's not right. It's a crime and it impacts our races.
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KAYE: Sticking with Florida. It's a key swing state in the upcoming election. Now check out this new poll in Florida. The Mason- Dixon poll has it a dead heat. It's a similar story in swing states across the country, in fact, which explains the candidates' travel schedule this week. CNN political editor Paul Steinhauser takes a look.
PAUL STEINHAUSER, CNN POLITICAL EDITOR: Hey, good morning, Randi.
A busy political week ahead on the campaign trail. And, no surprise, both President Barack Obama and Republican challenger Mitt Romney reach out to voters in some crucial political battlegrounds.
STEINHAUSER (voice-over): After fundraising Monday in Mississippi and Louisiana, Mitt Romney heads Tuesday to Pennsylvania, heading Wednesday to Ohio. Both considered important swing states in the race for the White House.
MITT ROMNEY (R), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: We will restore America's greatness. America's greatest days are ahead. We're the shining city on a hill. Ohio's going to make the difference. Ohio, I need you to help me become the next president of the United States.
STEINHAUSER: The presumptive Republican nominee's stop in the buckeye state comes two days after President Barack Obama's visit there. The president campaigns in Cincinnati Monday. The visit will be Mr. Obama's eighth swing through Ohio this year.
BARACK OBAMA, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: I want to give tax breaks to companies that are investing right here, in Poland, Ohio. In Parma, Ohio. In Cincinnati, Ohio. In the United States of America.
STEINHAUSER: The president fundraises in Texas the next day. And Thursday and Friday, he campaigns in Florida. Another very important battleground state.
KAYE: Thank you very much, Paul.
Americans kidnapped in Egypt. Now the family of one of those victims is speaking out right here on EARLY START WEEKEND. You'll hear from them live.
(COMMERCIAL BREAK) KAYE: A safe return. That is the hope of my next guests who are awaiting news on the condition of Reverend Michel Louis, the Boston area pastor who has been kidnapped in Egypt. Joining me now are members of Reverend Louis' family, including Jean Louis. He is the youth pastor at Free Pentecostal Church of God, where his father is the senior pastor.
Welcome to all of you. Good morning. I'm so sorry that you, as a family, are dealing with this.
Jean, your father was on this annual mission trip, along with several others, including your mother. She was actually on the bus, from what I understand, when this kidnapping happened. What has she told you about that incident?
REV. JEAN LOUIS, SON OF KIDNAPPED U.S. PASTOR: This is true. What she told us is basically what we hear from the reports. As the tour bus was in the area of the Sinai peninsula in Egypt, they were stopped by a couple of cars. And on the cars -- in the cars there were some gentlemen and some people that got on to the bus. And they detained both my father, Reverend Michel Louis, and another member of another church that was also in -- part of the missionary group that was on their way to Israel.
KAYE: Did your mother understand what was happening at the time? Was it obvious that this was a kidnapping?
LOUIS: She says that, you know, everything happened at once. It was all of the sudden. And I just -- she even, right now, seems like a dream to her. A nightmare.
KAYE: What can you tell us about this other person that was abducted along with your father?
LOUIS: All we can say is she was a member of another church that is very close -- that's very close fellowship with our church. Their pastor is a very close friend of my father, Pastor Reverend Michel Louis. And that member does go to that church.
KAYE: I'm curious, because there have been other kidnappings in this area, was your father aware of the risks? Was he aware at all of what had been happening there?
LOUIS: To tell you the truth, if we were aware -- because I read some of the comments that are being left in regards to the story -- if we were aware, I want to believe we would use correct judgment not to enter that area. So there's a very -- there's -- we want to say that he was not aware that there was any issue of that amount in that area.
KAYE: Right. The U.S. embassy has said that it is in close touch with local Egyptian officials. Have you heard anything at all from the U.S. government about this incident? And what would you like them to do at this point?
LOUIS: Sure. We've been in very good contact with Mr. Bill Wrights (ph), who works in the office of Senator Scott Brown. And he's -- he's been very efficient in giving us information from time to time. And we know just about as much as we know in the news in terms of, they're doing a lot of negotiating. They're trying the best that they can. And we're waiting.
KAYE: How concerned are you about your father's health?
LOUIS: We are concerned, but we're Christians and we believe in God. We're in good faith. We're resolved in our faith. We're -- we know that God is going to see him out of this situation. But at the same time, too, we're human and we just want to see our father get home. We want to see the sister member get home also. And we also want to see the tour guide, too, because I -- I'm sure no -- a lot of people are not speaking about him, too. But we want to see everybody come home safely. He is diabetic. So that's the only concern we might have. We have not spoken to him. I especially have not spoken to him since I dropped him off at the airport on Tuesday. So we -- we would just -- we'd like the release. And hopefully he's being treated very well where he is.
KAYE: As I mentioned, there have been several kidnappings of Americans in Egypt in recent months. But this is the first time that we've heard about a demand for a prisoner swap. That this isn't about money.
KAYE: Does that worry you at all? Does that concern you more?
LOUIS: And -- when I'm speaking to some of the officials that are speaking to me, we understand that it's a little bit different from the normal cases. And that's what puts a twist on everything. Usually there's a window of 24 hours to 48 hours that this certain negotiations are resolved. And because they're not asking for money, this make it a little bit more complicated. And a lot of answers to our questions cannot be answered.
But again, we are faithful people. We have a lot of people praying for our father and the people with him. And we're praying also. And we're staying resolved in our faith.
KAYE: I'm sure this is a very difficult time for your family and for your congregation. Jean Louis, we certainly hope your father gets home safely and gets home soon. Thank you so much and to the family of Reverend Michel Louis.
LOUIS: We truly appreciate everyone that is praying for us and everybody that is wishing a safe return to not only my father, but this member and the tour guide that is also with them. So we thank you guys very much.
KAYE: Thank you. And thank you for coming on during this time.
LOUIS: Thank you.
KAYE: Less than two weeks until the Olympic games. And if you haven't heard of Brittany Viola, well, you need to stick around. Overcoming eating disorders and injuries. The 25-year-old's full story just ahead.
KAYE: Good morning once again. It is July, which means one thing for film, comic book, and gaming fans around the world -- Comic-Con. More than 130,000 self-proclaimed geeks and nerds invaded San Diego this week, creating their own alternative universe of heroes, villains, gods, and monsters. But this isn't all fun and games. Last year alone, attendees spent $75 million inside the convention center. And here's a fun fact for you. Just 300 people showed up for the first Comic-Con in 1970. Boy, have things changed.
So, are you ready? The London Olympic games kick off in less than 12 days and 10 hours. One athlete looking to make a splash in London, Brittany Viola. The 25-year-old has fought injuries and an eating disorder on her journey to the big games. Here's her story.
KAYE (voice-over): Brittany Viola's Olympic dream began 16 years ago.
BRITTANY VIOLA, USA OLYMPIC DIVER: What really got my eyes focused on the Olympics was in 1996 when the magnificent seven won the gold medal as a team in gymnastics. And I was a gymnast at the time. And I wanted to be those girls.
KAYE: Though Viola excelled, gymnastics had stopped being fun. And when it was time to decide whether to move away from Florida to Ohio for more advanced Olympic training, Brittany said no.
KATHY VIOLA, BRITTANY'S MOTHER: We had thought about, you know, renting a place up there. Splitting our family up, going back and forth, which a lot of gymnast families end up doing to find better training. And she broke down and started crying after the American Cup. And she said, I don't want to live away from my family. And we had to sit down and we talked about it as a family. We said, this is crazy. You know, we're not going to break our family up and put her through something for an Olympic dream.
KAYE: But as that dream died, another was born.
B. VIOLA: I was playing on diving boards at my high school, Lake Island Preparatory School, and the swim coach saw me doing front double flips, back double flips, all these old gymnastics moves that I used to do always to my feet. And he asked me if I wanted to join the dive team there. And I never knew it was a sport at the time. So it was something that I was up for the challenge.
K. VIOLA: Most valuable diver. Let's see, diver of the year. Another most valuable diver.
KAYE: The Violas are an athletic family. Brittany's mom ran track in college and her dad is former World Series MVP and Cy Young award winner Frank Viola. FRANK VIOLA, BRITTANY'S FATHER: I think she's got my make-up internally. She's a perfectionist, which I was. If she would do a school paper and she'd make a mistake on the paper, instead of erasing it and go on, she'd rip the paper up and start over again. I mean the paper had to be pure. That's her mentality with diving.
KAYE: For Brittany, diving was a good match. And unlike gymnastics, she could stay in Florida to train. Still, making it to London was no easy task as she had to overcome injury and an eating disorder.
B. VIOLA: A lot of an eating disorder is believing in something that is not true. That is a complete lie. And for anyone who thinks that I'd look at myself in the mirror and say I need to change something in my body, I'm not beautiful, they'd think I'm crazy. And so just knowing something as simple as I'm beautifully and wonderfully made is a truth that I need to keep reminding myself and believe that over anything else that enters my mind.
KAYE: What's top of mind now is winning gold. Something her dad finds hard to imagine.
F. VIOLA: I think I'd be just like this. I'd be in awe. I'd be, oh my God, that's my little girl and look what she's achieved.
KAYE: Pretty amazing story, right? For more, check out my blog. You can find it at cnn.com/randi. And you can see that story and many others.
Going airborne in a lawn chair. And all it took was a few hundred balloons. What could possibly go wrong? Plenty. We'll tell you all about it.
KAYE: Welcome back. And thanks for starting your morning with us. I'm Randi Kaye.
It is just about half past the hour. We're getting close there.
We turn now to Syria, a place where the diplomats keep talking but the body count keeps rising. The head of a prominent opposition group is demanding that the U.S. and other countries take action now and not worry about how it could affect the re-election of President Obama. Their demands come after another day of death and destruction. At least 73 people were killed Saturday. That comes after the massacre on Thursday with more than 200 killed. And the U.N. says more than 10,000 have died since the uprisings began last year. CNN's Mohammed Jamjoom is in Abu Dhabi for us this morning.
Mohammed, good morning.
I know we've talked about the possibility that the government was moving chemical weapons around and that demands are growing for the replacement of U.N. Envoy Kofi Annan. Is there any end, though, in sight to all of this killing? We're hearing even today more people have been killed.
MOHAMMED JAMJOOM, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Good morning, Randi.
Well, sadly, it really doesn't look like there's any end to the violence in sight anytime soon. Let's just talk about the last few days.
Thursday there were report of that massacre and reports that more than 200 people killed. Some reports say that close to 300 people across the country killed on Thursday. Friday, reports that at least 80 people killed. Yesterday, reports at least 73 people killed. And, today, reports from opposition activists that at least 14 people already today have been killed. The bloodletting there just seems unrelenting at this stage with report of shelling in various towns across the country.
And this is happening all amidst the backdrop of all this diplomatic activity. Even reports today that Kofi Annan will travel to Moscow tomorrow to meet with the Russian foreign minister to try to find an end to this crisis. But as of yet, it really doesn't look like there's any end in sight.
KAYE: And what about the U.N. inspectors at the site of the massacre in Tremsa? The U.N. observers were able to get in there yesterday. Have they reported anything from that site?
JAMJOOM: Well, that's right. The U.S. special mission in Syria sent 11 vehicles to Tremsa yesterday. They were able to get in, speak to residents. The reports that are emerging are very preliminary at this stage. Earlier we heard from Sousin Hushi (ph), who's the spokesperson for that mission. Here's what she had to say.
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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: We can confirm that there was a military operation on July 12th, on Thursday. And attack appeared targeted toward specific homes of activists, as well as army defectors. Our U.N. team, they observed homes which had pools of blood and blood spatters in some of the rooms, as well as empty bullet cases. There was a wide range of weapons used, including heavy weapons such as -- and artillery shells -- artillery mortar and small arms.
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JAMJOOM: Miss Hushi (ph) went on to say that it's unknown yet how many people were killed in that town, but that they plan to send those observers back into Tremsa tomorrow to investigate further.
KAYE: And what about the reaction from the Syrian government? I mean what are they saying about what happened there in Tremseh and this massacre Thursday?
JAMJOOM: Well, they're saying that the reports have been exaggerated. There was a press conference from the spokesperson for the Syrian foreign ministry, Jihad Maqdisi, just a short while ago, Randi, in which he said that the letter that was sent from Kofi Annan to the Syrian regime was full of exaggeration, that it was not based on facts. Here is more of what -- actually he said that what happened in Tremseh was a military operation and not a massacre. And he further went on to say, our duty is to protect the U.N. observers. But whenever they are about to head to a hot spot, we warn them and we tell them that they're on their own. Our duty is to provide them security, but they went to Tremseh without military security. Now, the foreign ministry spokesperson also said that reports that there were helicopters firing on that town, they were just untrue. And he said that it was only one civilian that was killed in that town on Thursday, and that there were 37 militants that were killed there. Randi.
KAYE: Mohammed Jamjoom, thank you for your reporting this morning from Abu Dhabi.
To New York now, where they are running out of space to put all those people. So they've come up with a new idea -- small, micro- apartments. So, if you like living in a dorm room, well, now you can do that very same thing after college. We'll take you on a tour of a really, really tiny place to live.
KAYE: So imagine living in an RV eight floors up. That is the new plan to save space in New York. All right, it's not really an RV, but an RV-sized apartment, just 300 square feet. So, how is the fit? Our Richard Roth squeezes in.
RICHARD ROTH, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Since New York City wants to build new, tiny apartments ...
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Hi.
ROTH: How big is your apartment? I came calling in Greenwich Village to see how residents in existing shoebox-sized apartments survive.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: You're having to duck under, but I'm -- I'm lucky that I'm short.
ROTH: Genevieve Shuler (ph) has been living here for seven years.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: This apartment is about 105 square feet.
ROTH: And that's much smaller than the micro-sized apartments the city would like to build.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Living room. And our studying room ...
ROTH: Mayor Michael Bloomberg walked a floor plan of the potential 300 square-foot apartments. He says micro-apartments are critical to attracting young people, those priced out of the market.
MICHAEL BLOOMBERG: And if you don't have the kind of housing that they need, they can't do that.
ROTH (on camera): I cannot stretch my arms up fully here.
(voice over): New Yorkers like Ariana Gansz (ph) are renowned for overcoming cramped challenges.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: This is annoying. This gets to be annoying. But again, I've adjusted.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Manhattan can be quite pricey, even with 50,000 yen.
ROTH: Kramer adjusted in "Seinfeld" when Japanese visitors needed a place to live.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Good night.
ROTH: Future renters of micro-apartments might want to check out companies that transform furniture.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I think that people have to be smarter and they have to get smarter furniture.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: So after I cook, I'll put my dishes in the tub. Sort of close the shower ...
ROTH (on camera): Whoa. After you cook you put your dishes in the tub.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Yes.
ROTH: That's where you clean them?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Yes.
ROTH (voice over): The rent for New York's planned micro- apartments will be around $2,000. Not bad for New York. One new real estate report suggests the average Manhattan rent is nearly double that. And small apartments appeal to a growing singles population sensitive to high rents.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: There are times when it's challenging. But there are times when it is really easy.
ROTH (on camera): Do you mind if I sit on your bed? Because I can't stand.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Yep.
ROTH (voice over): Richard Roth, CNN, New York.
KAYE: Checking stories across the country now. In Oregon, two men strapped themselves to lawn chairs and attached 350 balloons to try to float from Oregon to Montana. You cannot make this up. But Kent Couch and Fareed Lofta had to cut their trip short after a storm knocked out 35 of their helium balloons. And it started hailing and snowing. It was a rough landing, but their spokesman -- yes, they have a spokesman -- told CNN that they were disappointed and rattled but OK.
Now, to Florida where a man says he watched his flooded field drain like a toilet bowl when a sinkhole opened up.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It's incredible, the way it opened up. Because like Josh said, you, it's just -- it shoots up in the air and boosh. And the next thing you know, you just see this foam swirl. And it's just going down and down and down.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Wow.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It was amazing how fast the water left.
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KAYE: The city of Live Oak has dealt with dozens of sinkholes left from flooding from Tropical Storm Debbie last month. A geologist said the land was on top of an underground spring. The hole is expected to get even bigger as the land dries.
And in California, dozens of party animals floated down the American River for Rafting Gone Wild. What a scene. Just look at all the booze, the bikinis, and the sunshine. And people went to great lengths to make sure the party was rocking.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I wrapped the saran wrap around the stereo.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Do you think the saran wrap is going to keep it from getting wet?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Ten rolls of saran wrap plus tape, yeah.
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KAYE: Wow. The event was held this weekend because alcohol is banned on holiday weekends. It may have been a little too rowdy, though. Police arrested nine people. And two people actually had to go to the hospital. I don't know. That does not look like fun.
Also in California, restaurants are shirking the state's new ban on foie gras just two weeks after it went into effect. One restaurant is flat-out ignoring the ban on fatty goose liver claiming it doesn't apply because the building is on federal land. Now, animal rights activists are furious. Here's Deborah Villalon from our affiliate KTVU in San Francisco.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: What law am I breaking? I have to be breaking a law to be arrested.
DEBORAH VILLALON, CNN CORRESPONDENT: U.S. Park Police arrested this protester for disorderly conduct when he wouldn't budge from the restaurant entrance.
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VILLALON: Activists flocked here because even though California enacted a ban July First on the products made from force-fed birds, namely foie gras, it is back. This $20 entree on the menu in the Presidio, a national park.
DANA PORTNOY: Immature, childish behavior. They're trying to evade enforcement, but it's not going to work. They're not a sovereign nation.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I didn't realize that there would be picketers.
VILLALON: This foursome left nothing but crumbs on their plates.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Food is food.
VILLALON: Even snapping a quick shot of their forbidden sliders before polishing them off.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: It's a guilty pleasure. It's something that you have to at least try once. So, it's Bastille Day.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We almost didn't come.
VILLALON: One couple invited here for a birthday brought a letter of disapproval to the restaurant owner.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: If he wants to overturn the law, he should work for that. But he's kind of setting himself above the law.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I'd even say (ph) it's unfair to their competitors also. It's clearly a violation of the spirit of the law.
VILLALON: Restaurant management declined an interview. But the owner has said bucking the ban is a business decision. Legally, an opinion would have to come from the state attorney general or U.S attorney. So far, neither is biting on the issue.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: It's a law, and a law should be enforced.
KAYE: Once again, now that was Deborah Villalon from our affiliate KTVU in California. Nelson Mandela turns 94 years old later this week. And people are celebrating with 67 minutes of community service. The very special number, and we'll tell you why.
But first, the man you're about to meet grew up with big dreams for his hometown, the slums of Kliptown, South Africa. When those dreams didn't come true, he took matters into his own hands to empower Kliptown's future generation through education. Meet this week's CNN hero, Thulani Madondo.
THULANI MADONDO: Since the apartheid, Kliptown has not changed. There is no electricity. People are living in sheds. Growing up in Kliptown makes you feel like you don't have control over your life. Many children drop out of school because they don't have the school uniforms and textbooks. I've realized that the only way that Kliptown could change was through education. I'm Thulani Madondo, I'm helping educate the children so that we can change Kliptown together.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Yes? Maesha (ph)?
MADONDO: We help the children by paying for their school books, school uniforms. Our main focus is our tutoring program that we run four days a week. As young people who are born and raised here, we know the challenges of this community. We also do a number of activities. We have got to come together for fun while we also come together for academics.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: This program gave me a chance to go to the university. They (ph) paid for my fees. That's why I also come back and help out here.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Number two, number three.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: A little can go a long way.
MADONDO (on camera): What subjects do you need to study? Math and science. And English.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Yeah.
(voice over): I did not go to university, but being able to help them, I feel excited.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I am going to be an accountant.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I'm going to be a lawyer.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: And I'm going to be a nurse.
MADONDO: The work that we're doing here is bringing change.
(COMMERCIAL BREAK) KAYE: Welcome back. About 46 minutes past the hour. Glad you're with us. A controversial sheriff under fire. A Saudi first for women in this summer's Olympic games. And a birthday bash fit for an icon. Nadia Bilchik joining me now to discuss some of this week's most intriguing people.
NADIA BILCHIK, CNN CORRESPONDENT: And we first go to Arizona ...
BILCHIK: the Maricopa County, where Sheriff Joe Arpaio is actually facing a racial profiling trial.
KAYE: Starts ...
BILCHIK: So, that's for this week. And two thing for him -- racial profile trial going on. But he's also running for re-election as mayor.
BILCHIK: So, and with all of the media attention he's getting, he's getting a huge amount of funding for his mayoral race from out of state.
KAYE: As the result of all the anger about this trial, well, because he's been accused of racial profiling by the Justice Department. And so, well, he says, you know, I'm not going to - I don't have to listen to the federal government. He's always said I'm going to do it my way, my town, my county.
BILCHIK: And interestingly he comes from Italian immigrant parents.
BILCHIK: And his mother actually died in childbirth. He was raised by his father. So, interesting story about Joe who calls himself the toughest sheriff in America.
KAYE: Always has. And I've met him. He's pretty tough.
BILCHIK: It will be interesting to see what happens.
KAYE: Yeah. Who else is on your list?
BILCHIK: Well, then there's Sarah Attar. Now, she's fascinating because for the first time in history, Saudi Arabia is having women in their Olympic team. And they're going to be two of them. And the one is Sarah Attar who is a 19-year-old junior at Pepperdine University. And she qualifies because her father is Saudi Arabian. And what's interesting is they've taken all the photographs of the Pepperdine sight of her in tank tops and shorts. And for the Olympic games, she's going to be wearing longer pants and longer t-shirts.
KAYE: More covered. Right. BILCHIK: Exactly, more covered. And a head covering, much more modest in keeping with Saudi Arabian law. So Sarah Attar, she'll be running the 800 meters. It will be interesting to see what happens, but certainly making history. And actually, sports is still banned for girls in Saudi Arabia to do at school. So, this is a big breakthrough.
KAYE: Really, really big breakthrough for her.
BILCHIK: It is. And Nelson Mandela ...
KAYE: Nelson - also makes the list this week.
BILCHIK: Makes the list. He turns 94 on Wednesday. And there were a couple of scares this year about his health. But gratefully and thankfully, although frail and according to his family who I spoke to this morning, he does sleep a lot. He is going to enjoy his 94th birthday at his birthplace in Kulu, in the Transgaar (ph).
KAYE: What's the plan? How do the Mandelas celebrate?
BILCHIK: They are going to celebrate with him and his family. He wants a small, intimate gathering with the family. And his wife Graca Machel, and all the grandchildren whose names all begin with the Z, Zadiwan (ph), Zananian (ph) , Zualaki (ph) , et cetera. But that's the idea. And just, you know, you look at this man -- 27 years in prison. And he's given 67 years of his entire 94 years to the struggle. So the day is called Mandela Day. And the idea is the United Nations have made it a national day to give 67 minutes of service, of community service around the world on Wednesday in his honor.
KAYE: That's really special.
BILCHIK: So, we say to Madiba, which is his fond name, Madiba who introduced the concept of something called Ubuntu, which means "togetherness" in South Africa, the man who is and created this peaceful transition to democracy. What an extraordinary moment, an extraordinary man. So, we say happy birthday, Nelson Rolihlahla Mandela!
KAYE: All right. I'm glad you said that, not me. You got it. All right, Nadia, thank you. Nice to see you.
All right. This is a tough one -- what do Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke and Batman have in common? Yes, it's something. We'll tell you next.
KAYE: Welcome back. Let's take a look at some of the big stories coming up in the week ahead. We start with Monday, tomorrow. Secretary Clinton leaves Egypt, and she heads to Israel. She'll be busy with two days of talks covering everything from Iran to election politics back in the states. And Ben Bernanke, well, he is probably preparing for his big day on Tuesday. Some expect the Senate to grill the Federal Reserve chairman about LIBOR and the U.K. banking scandal that impacted roughly $10 trillion in loans around the world. That is your credit card rate, your car loans, your home mortgage, just about everything. Now, on Wednesday, looking ahead, the battle over evidence in the Drew Peterson case continues in a court hearing. You may recall the former police sergeant is charged with murdering his third wife eight years ago.
And another big trial actually begins on Thursday. Known by many as America's toughest sheriff, we were just talking about it with Nadia Bilchik, Arizona's sheriff Joe Arpaio is fighting allegations that his officers systematically profiled and discriminated against Latinos. And finally, on Friday, I'm looking forward to this one -- "The Dark Knight" rises on Friday. The much anticipated film is the final installment of director Christopher Nolan's "Batman" trilogy starring Christian Bale.
Today on "Sanjay Gupta M.D.," a special report from Cambodia where doctors have gotten to the bottom of a mystery disease that killed 64 of 66 children who were diagnosed. Sanjay got exclusive access to the hospital and to the lab where the crucial clues were found. And then on "The Human Factor," the story of a former child soldier who put down his gun to train as a paramedic. That and more on "Sanjay Gupta M.D." this morning, at 7:30 eastern.
KAYE: Welcome back. People in Utah are breathing a sigh of relief this morning after their homes survived a nearby wildfire. But they're not counting their blessings just yet. Now they actually have to worry about mudslides. That's because the fire burned most of the vegetation that keeps the ground in place, and the area has a history of landslides. The city is setting up berms to protect the homes. Experts say a mudslide may not happen for another year or so.
Three more people now headed to the international space station.
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KAYE: That is for launch in Kazakhstan. The Russian rocket is carrying American astronaut Sunny Williams to the space station. She already holds the record for the longest time in space for a female astronaut. A Japanese astronaut and Russian cosmonaut also on board. They're expected to reach the space station on Tuesday.
Well, it was the concert of a lifetime. Bruce Springsteen and Paul McCartney on stage together. Can you imagine? (MUSIC)
KAYE: Yes, can you hear those boos? Well, don't worry, they are not booing the Boss or Sir Paul. It seems police cut the mics because the pair played too long. Police say that they went past the curfew, and apparently they take it pretty seriously in London. So, they cut them off.
Here's the final word from guitarist Stevie Van Zandt on Twitter, "English cops may be the only individuals on earth that wouldn't want to hear one more from Bruce Springsteen and Paul McCartney."
I hear you. Wow. Cutting them off? It's the Boss.
Well, we've got much more ahead on CNN SUNDAY MORNING -- which starts right now.
KAYE (voice-over): From CNN world headquarters in Atlanta, it's CNN SUNDAY MORNING.
Florida teams up with Homeland Security. The state's new tool in their voter purge fund.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: We want him returned to Boston safely.
KAYE: Two Americans kidnapped in Egypt. And now we have new details and their names. The family of one hostage tells us what they think happened.
And later, your money or your wife? How you can prevent finance from ruining your romance. Tips from our financial expert.
KAYE: Good morning, everyone. I'm Randi Kaye. It is 7:00 on the East Coast, 4:00 a.m. on the West. Thanks for starting your morning with us. We're glad you're here.
We start this morning with politics and the Obama administration giving in to Florida. The state will now have access to a Department of Homeland Security database on immigrants. It's part of Florida's effort to clear illegal voters off their voter rolls. Florida had sued the government for access to the data base. The federal government had challenged Florida's efforts in court but lost.
To Washington now where it's going to be a big week for Ben Bernanke. On Tuesday, the Federal Reserve chairman is scheduled to testify before the Senate for his semi annual report on the economy. He's required to appear twice a year. In addition to questions about additional stimulus policies, he could be asked about LIBOR and the U.K. rate-fixing scandal that's impacted roughly $10 trillion in loans around the world. That's your credit card rate, your car loan perhaps, and maybe even your home mortgage.
And in other politics, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton is in Egypt this morning, wrapping up meetings with top officials, including the head of the country's military. It comes a day after Clinton's visit with newly elected Egyptian President Mohamed Morsi whose transition to power has included a struggle with military leadership.
Now, you may recall the military took control of the government after former president Hosni Mubarak was ousted more than a year ago.
Joining me now from Cairo is our CNN foreign affairs reporter, Elise Labott.
Elise, good morning.
ELISE LABOTT, CNN FOREIGN AFFAIRS REPORTER (via telephone): Good morning.
KAYE: Secretary Clinton pushed Morsi to, quote, "assert the full authority of presidency". Is she trying, do you think, to send a signal to military leaders?
LABOTT: Very much so, Randi. I think what she's trying to send a message to everybody that democratic transition, everybody has a role. So, she's urging President Morsi to get a constitution together, put a government together, and put together a parliament. But, of course, the military needs to try and step back now.
She said yesterday during her meeting with Morsi, urging the military to move back to its national security role and to hand over to civilian authority. She's saying basically to the military, Randi, get back to your day job because if you look at Sinai for instance, on the border with Israel, we have two American -- Americans and their driver kidnapped over the weekend. That border is very unstable. So, you've got a lot of work to do on the security, leave the politics to the democratically elected president.
KAYE: And how were her comments received, I mean, when she met with the head of Egypt's military?
LABOTT: Well, I think he took -- he definitely got the message. And this is something that everyone in Egypt, you still see protests in Tahrir Square and around the world. People are saying what -- what Field Marshal Tantawi focus on the economy and looking for U.S. budget support. You know, you have $1.3 billion in U.S. aid to the Egyptian military. They want to make sure that military aid is intact.
But definitely will -- during Secretary Clinton's trip, one of the issues that she's pushing is how can the U.S. help Egypt's fragile economy? How can they help foster jobs, growth, increase tourism -- a lot of the issues that led to the downfall because there was poverty and such despair?
So, Secretary Clinton listening to what President Morsi's plans are, talking to the military about maintaining that relationship. But also how can the U.S. best help Egypt right now with the economy.
KAYE: And what about the situation there in Egypt with the Muslim Brotherhood now in power? Is Mrs. Clinton concerned about women's rights in Egypt?
LABOTT: I think she's very concerned. President Morsi has made some positive statements about equal rights for women, equal rights for minorities. What she's saying is, she's pointing to the comments and holding the president's feet to the fire and saying, we really appreciate these comments, we hope you're going to make good on them.
Today, Secretary Clinton met with women's groups. She met with Christians, including Coptic Christians who have really been marginalized in the country in the past, and Democratic activists and saying to them, listen, I understand you've been marginalized in the past. I understand there are a lot of concerns. But you need to assert yourself. You need to take responsibility for your role in the new Egypt.
And I think that's really the theme here, talking to a lot of different audiences and saying Egypt has so much work to do, and you also have to work together to move the country forward, Randi.
KAYE: Elise Labott reporting for us this morning -- Elise, thank you very much.
This morning, a family in Boston is praying for the safe return of this man. His name is Reverend Michel Louis. And he is one of the Americans who was kidnapped from a tour bus in Egypt while on a mission trip.
Earlier, I spoke with one of Reverend Louis' son, Jean. He got unique insight into exactly what happened from his mother who was on the same bus during the kidnapping but was unharmed. Here's what he told me.
REV. JEAN LOUIS, SON OF KIDNAPPED U.S. PASTOR: As the tour bus was in the area of the Sinai Peninsula and Egypt, they were stopped by a couple of cars. And on the cars -- in the cars, there were some gentlemen and some people that got on to the bus. And they detained both my father, Reverend Michel Louis, and another member of another church that was also in -- part of the missionary group that was on their way to Israel.
KAYE: Did your mother understand what was happening at the time? Was it obvious that this was a kidnapping?
LOUIS: She says that, you know, everything happened at once. It was all of the sudden. And I just -- she even right now it seems like a dream to her. A nightmare. KAYE: What can you tell us about this other person that was abducted along with your father?
LOUIS: All we can say is she was a member of another church that is very close -- that does close fellowship with our church. Their pastor is a very close friend of my father, Pastor Reverend Michel Louis. And that member does go to that church.
KAYE: I'm curious because there have been other kidnappings in this area. Was your father aware of the risks? Was he aware at all of what had been happening there?
LOUIS: To tell you the truth, if we were aware because I read some of the comments that are being left in regards to the story. If we were aware, I want to believe we would use correct judgment not to enter that area. So, there's a very -- we want to say that he was not aware that there was any issue of that -- of that amount in that area.
KAYE: Right. How concerned are you about your father's health?
LOUIS: We -- we are concerned. But we're Christians, and we believe in God. We're in good faith. We're resolved in our faith. We're -- we're -- we know that God is going to see him out of the situation.
But at the same time, too, we're human. And we just want to see our father get home. We want to see the sister, member get home also. And we also want to see the tour guide, too, because I'm sure no -- a lot of people are not speaking about him, too. We want to see everybody come home safely.
He is diabetic. So that's the only concern we might have. We -- we have not spoken to him, I especially have not spoken to him since I dropped him at the airport on Tuesday. So we just would like the release. And hopefully he's being treated very well where he is.
KAYE: And Jean says the family is staying resolved in its faith and believing in a positive outcome. Noting that the several branches of the federal government including the U.S. embassy and office of Massachusetts Senator Scott Brown have been very helpful, he says.
We turn now to Syria, a place where the diplomats keep talking, but the body counts keep rising. Today, more than 14 people have been killed. This comes as the U.N. observers are returning to the site of had they call a massacre in the village of Tremseh. More than 200 people were killed there last week.
They say mankind is the smartest species on the planet. But wait until you see these primates. Lemurs are showing their smart side. But the sad news is they could be on their way to extinction.
KAYE: They are considered some of the smartest animals on the planet. But they are also some of the most endangered. We're talking about lemurs.
And I had a chance to visit some of these wide-eyed primates being studied at Duke University and saw firsthand why it would be a crime if they disappeared from this Earth.
KAYE (voice-over): The first thing you notice about lemurs are their eyes. They are pig and wide and full of curiosity.
(on camera): There you go. You are just the sweetest little thing. What are you thinking? That's what we're here to find out. What's going on in that little brain of yours, huh?
(voice-over): That's what scientists at Duke University's Lemur Center are trying to figure out. And so far, they are pretty impressed. They say lemurs are deep thinkers who understand numbers and sequencing, even abstract thinking.
Here in Duke, they have the largest captive collection of lemurs in the world.
(on camera): Lemurs have actually received a lot less attention than apes and monkeys when it comes to researching how they think. But the folks here at the Duke Lemur Center are looking into how lemurs think because they believe they can offer some insight into how our primate ancestors actually thought about 75 million years ago. Isn't that right?
(voice-over): Duke University Professor Elizabeth Brannon heads up the lemur research here.
ELIZABETH BRANNON, DUKE UNIVERSITY: Hey, Pedro. Thanks for helping out today.
KAYE: She says lemurs are so sophisticated had it comes to numbers, they rival monkeys. And like human babies, lemurs understand numbers without actually understanding language.
We got to see for ourselves how smart lemurs are. My jaw dropped as I watched these primates from Madagascar take tests on a computer.
This lemur has learned to recognize which square has more red dots. He uses his nose, and if he picks the right one, which he mostly does, a sugar pellet drops down. Lemurs love sweets.
BRANNON: We're asking can the lemur learn an abstract rule about numbers. Can the lemur learn that he always has to choose the smaller number or the larger number? And apply this to pictures that he's had no training on. A long time ago it was thought that lemurs weren't capable of doing a lot of things that other primates were, and the cognitive domain. So in some ways this is surprising how well they're able to do in this task.
KAYE: What else surprised Professor Brannon?
That lemurs, like humans, avoid risk.
BRANNON: We figured out that they really don't like to gamble.
KAYE: How does she know? Because in this test, lemurs are taught that if they choose the photograph of the train, they could get a bunch of sugar pellets as a reward or possibly no pellet at all. If they choose the safe option, the flag photo, they always get one pellet. Brannon says lemurs are smart enough to make an association between the photograph and the outcome.
Why does any of this matter? Professor Brannon says it can help humans figure out how our thinking evolved.
BRANNON: What are the fundamental building blocks upon which complex human cultures and systems of knowledge are built? And by studying these kinds of thought processes in lemurs and monkeys, in apes and other animals, we can begin to shed insight into that kind of question.
KAYE: And while Professor Brannon doesn't expect lemurs to be learning calculus any time soon, she does believe we've only scratched the surface of their amazing intelligence.
KAYE: Can't get enough of their little faces.
Now, to give you an idea how serious this situation is, consider this -- one species of lemur has only 18 individuals left worldwide. A conference of experts is developing an action plan actually over the next couple of days, hoping to save them. We'll be sure to keep you posted.
Romance and finance -- tough topics individually, but combine them, and they can start a civil war at home. Up next, tips to make it so both people are happy with where the money is going.
KAYE: Well, it is no secret that couples fight. One of the most frequent topics for those battles is money. And fights over where the money is going are one of the main causes for divorce.
So, how do you avoid the traps of this very sensitive issue?
Financial planner Karen Lee is joining us this morning to talk about love and money.
KAREN LEE, FINANCIAL PLANNER: Yes.
KAYE: You have some great tips, I know.
LEE: I do.
KAYE: And, in fact, your book "It's Just Money" --
KAYE: -- is pretty much full of great tips.
KAYE: Let me start with why do couples fight? There's so much to fight about. Why do they tend to focus on the finances?
LEE: Well, it's one of the big ones. My personal theory is that we all have a relationship with money. This relationship is rooted in the way we were raised as well as our life experience.
Now when you take marriage, often, not always, but often opposites attract. I know that happened in my marriage. My -- I am -- my father was an immigrant. So I'm a first generation American, whereas my husband comes from centuries of Americans.
When we got married at 25, 26, we certainly didn't talk about our different views about money. So, I think when you put that together, it can really become a pressure cooker.
KAYE: So what happens when a couple is arguing over money and they can't agree on anything about money? What do you tell them?
LEE: Well, I say let's start with communication. So first of all, let's face it, we don't talk about money in this country. It's taboo. Typically in a marriage we let one person handle it because they like it more, they're better at it. And the other person's out of the loop.
So I recommend for couples that don't have regular talks about money, let's start with communication. Where are we right now? What's our overall picture?
How much debt -- do you know how many people do not know what their debt load is right now? How much do you have in savings? What works? What doesn't work?
And let's start scheduling some regular times to talk about our financial --
KAYE: Communication is key.
KAYE: What about recommendations for those who have different ideas? I mean, some people are savers, you know? Maybe your husband or wife is a spender and wants to enjoy it while they have. What do you recommend?
LEE: Right. Something that works in lots of things in marriage which is compromise. First of all, when there's a --
KAYE: Compromise in marriage?
LEE: We know there are usually the saver versus the spender. What we need to recognize is that they -- we try to make the saver always right and the spender always wrong. It doesn't always work well that way.
Some savers, and I tell you about this personally, are literally living in fear of never having enough. And so, they try to control so heavily the spending that the person in charge of the family budget doesn't have any leniency.
So both people need to look at where they come from and try to move to a more central position.
KAYE: Yes. That goes back to the fear of running out of money, and your upbringing. If compromise is out of the question, what do they do?
LEE: Obviously now we're talking counseling, but not necessarily --
KAYE: Knew you were going there.
LEE: Three C's. Not always therapy. If your problem is debt and unable to get past a debt situation, consider debt counseling, debt consolidation.
If you're living with the one person that has that fear of never having enough, financial planning can be a wonderful solution. Financial planning helps you assess if -- where we are right now, if it's enough, what we're doing, and maybe we can loosen up a little bit on the spending.
KAYE: So given this is a big problem in a lot of marriages -- I mean, if you're planning on getting married or you have a son or daughter planning on getting married, you think they should talk to somebody beforehand?
LEE: Well, I first of all think they need to sit down with each other and practice full disclosure. I know -- I hear of relationships that break up during the engagement phase because they did not know how much debt the other person had.
KAYE: Then you take that on.
LEE: So, come clean. How much debt am I bringing into the marriage? How do I feel about savings and debt?
And you know the best thing couples can do to ensure a better marriage? Have goals and dreams for the future that they're planning for, and the saving aligns with those dreams.
KAYE: Right. Got to save and enjoy. Find the right balance.
LEE: Right. It's that balance.
KAYE: All right. It's just money, but it causes so many problems.
LEE: It does.
KAYE: Karen Lee, thank you. Nice to see you.
LEE: Nice to see you, too.
KAYE: Well, he made millions even as he left Penn State University in the wake of the Jerry Sandusky child sex abuse scandal. Why the university is sticking by the final contract of legendary football coach Joe Paterno.
KAYE: The family of the late Penn State football coach Joe Paterno will still benefit from his contract. University officials made the announcement just a day after an internal review blasted Paterno and other school officials for their handling of the child sex abuse scandal. It totaled $5.5 million in payouts and benefits including paying his wife $1,000 a month for the rest of her life.
I'll be pack at the top of the hour with more news as it happens. But, first, "SANJAY GUPTA, M.D." starts right now.